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1. You think that I have never gone through anything painful? I have. You think I have never been treated badly by a man or put in danger from a man? I have. But that is on THEM, NOT me. Nothing I do excuses their behavior. And women on the streets stripping for a drug habit. You have NO empathy for those people? For the circumstances in their life that got them to this point? Honestly? You don't know if they lost their families and have nowhere else to go. If they fell into this life and don't know how to crawl out. YOU obviously have never known anyone who hit rock bottom and had to fight their way back out. Who went through things like this even though they ARE a good person. Just a good person who strayed from the path of social acceptability when they stumbled. I'm not saying I agree with their behavior, just that I know people who have to do that even though its not what they want, and I know they aren't sluts and whores.
Posted at 3:24PM on July 31st 2008 by kaeth
2. In addition, my hypothetical was not directed at your mother. And good for her, but for you to say the scenario I painted is ridiculous is ignorant. Do you think that hypothetical woman would make any money if she couldn't put up a convincing front? I'm not saying these women are like that, but they COULD be. I DON'T think prostitution is a victimless crime. I think that the industry being illegal puts every woman who has to resort to that at severe risk of STDs, emotional and physical abuse, and unwanted pregnancy. I think prostitution is a tragedy. I think women all over the country who need money so badly that they resort to that are tragic tragic figures who need help because they are in danger. Alternatively, the porn industry is mostly victimless, at least when done professionally. Those women get paid, get checked regularly and are willing participants. When someone makes a lifechoice that doesn’t harm others and that they are happy with then who am I to judge?
Posted at 3:21PM on July 31st 2008 by kaeth
3. Please think about what others have gone thru, literally, not on some imaginary stripper working onlyt to put food on the table for their children. Your argument lacks totaly credibility-as if the majority of women stripping or hooking are doing so to feed their children & not to support a drug habit or their own decadent lifestyle. Get real. I sincerly hope you continue go thru life without any terrible, painful, hatefilled encounters. Others arent quite so lucky & that may be why we see this as demeaning, immoral & unacceptable behavior for women. Good luck to you, keath. May you be blessed with the appreciation of your own integrity & remain true to yourself & your own moral compass, which ever way it pulls. Hopefully, always out of harms way.
Posted at 3:15PM on July 31st 2008 by the truth remains
4. And yes you are right, i HAVE encountered men who treated me as a sexual object. But that is not MY fault, nor is it really these women's faults. It's the MAN'S fault if he does that. Taking this idea to the extreme is what creates situations like the Taliban where women are forced to cover themselves completely in order to prevent themselves to be seen as sexual objects. I am a confident woman who likes to feel sexy on occasion, not trashy, but feeling attractive and interesting is nice. And if a guy takes that too far and isn't interested in anything other then my chest, then f him, I don't have time for that ass. But its not MY fault that he has the mental capacity of a 14 year old boy, and its not my fault no matter WHAT i wear, be it a muumuu or a bikini.
Posted at 3:13PM on July 31st 2008 by kaeth
5. No morals whatsoever? Get off your high horse. Jesus...so if you are a slut or a whore you have no morals? Lump them right in with the enraged rapist? And forgive me if I am misinterpreting, but are you going into the camp of...they were ASKING for it because the dressed that way? Because in MY humble opinion, it doesn't matter WHAT a woman or anyone else for that matter DOES. Rape and attack is unacceptable. Just because some ?#@!$ can't keep it in his pants when he sees a hot girl doesn't mean she brought that on herself. And although yes, belding DOES seem quite skeezy in these photos, comparing consensual DANCING (NOT sex, DANCING) with PEDOPHILIA is both extreme and ridiculous. Pedophilia is a DISEASE, uncontrolled by the individual, and frankly, these women wouldn't do it for a pedophile because they have breasts and adult bodies. The schoolgirl thing is a fantasy for adult men based on when they were teenagers.
Posted at 3:08PM on July 31st 2008 by kaeth
6. Hopefully you can obtain some realization into the fact that my "issues" and the reactions other people might have, to this images are very personal. They do affect ALOT of people. You are probably one of those that think prostitution is a victimless crime & is not at all demeaning to women. Utterly astonishing. I find it completely unbelievable that you have never, once in your life, encountered any male that attempted to treat or address you only as a sexual being. Not once, ever? I am not saying EVERY male I encounter is disrespectful, FAR FROM IT, of course not, but there certainly are some that seem to think all women are mere objects. It is simply not believable to me that every single adult male you have ever encountered has only treated you with dignity & respect. If that is truly the case, you must live on another planet.
Posted at 2:59PM on July 31st 2008 by the truth remains
7. If you or any of these females or any loved one, had the terrible misfortune to encounter an enraged man who, after numerous hours of "innocent, clean, fun" in a strip joint, or club where young girls, particularly those who decide to dress as even younger school girls, in outfits resembling school uniforms, you just might see things differently. God forbid anything like that should happen, I am not saying it happened directly to me nor am I saying the constant bombardment of images such as these are a DIRECT cause of every rape, molestation or murder, but it just might have some bearing on perverts who fantasize about sex with minors, young school girls, that eventually act out on such immoral thoughts. PERHAPS some feel encouraged by images such as these. Immorality breeds immorality. & IMHO they are acting rather slutty IN THESE PICTURES & based on that, they appear to have no morals whatsoever.
Posted at 2:50PM on July 31st 2008 by the truth remains
8. My mother WAS a single mother who waitressed her way thru college with ALL her clothes on & dignity intact. She later achieved great success & was able to teach me many things, one of which was to never, ever lower my own standards. Your comparison of these females acting in such a demeaning manner, to a single mother who is forced to dance and is ashamed of her actions is past ridiculous. These females dont appear the least bit embarrassed or ashamed. IF they have to strip for a living, that is one thing but they certainly dont have to dress as young school girls. That is encouraging pedophilia, by pandering to pedophiles.
Posted at 2:48PM on July 31st 2008 by the truth remains
9. I used to travel to colleges, to book entertainment, and I've met this "Mr. Belding"-and he is rancid. I think that he works the "college circuit" just to feel up chicks. I've seen him in action and he is just plain gross. He likes to do the BIG HUG-just so that he can cop a feel on the boobs. GRRRRRRRROOOOOSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
Posted at 1:19PM on July 31st 2008 by MINKA
10. And lastly, although I am sure your mother would be proud that you feel the need to defend women's rights, honor, and dignity, would she approve of the language you're using to do it? Or is this simply where you learned you own inappropriateness from.
Posted at 12:36PM on July 31st 2008 by kaeth
11. Also, in response to your argument about the girls in general. I would point out that you do not know their lives. You say: "If it walks like a slut, talk likes a slut & act likes a slut, I CAN CALL IT A SLUT, that is what it is." Is that REALLY true? Would you make that judgment about a girl who was raped, got pregnant, had the child and was forced to work at a place like this to put food on the table because the baby prevented her from finishing school? I'm not saying that is the case here, but it COULD be, you don't know. And in that case, she would probably seem like a slut...and hate herself for it, but still get up everyday to do it because someone depended on her. Is she a slut? Also, as a confident professional twenty something woman? I do not find that I need to combat against these negative stereotypes of women. I am not one of them, and I do not tolerate being treated as such. I have not found it all that difficult to find men who respect and appreciate that.
Posted at 12:30PM on July 31st 2008 by kaeth
12. You have not "upset" me by attacking me like that, just exposed your own issues. I'm not surprised or particularly offended by anything you have said, I was simply bringing it up as proof that you leap to conclusions about people based on little to no knowledge about who they are as a person. Also, I think everyone ELSE who has called them names is just as ridiculous as you. Its not that you think their behavior is less then stellar that gets me, its the way you're talking about them, like they personally have done something to you. Of course you can think they are acting inappropriately, whatever. But to qualitatively judge them as people, when all you know is what ten pictures tell you, is ignorant. I think you have missed the point that I am not really discussing their behavior anymore as much as your behavior and how it offends me. Short of committing a heinous crime, I can't see how any stranger could illicit this amount of rage in another person.
Posted at 12:19PM on July 31st 2008 by kaeth
13. Apparently the majority of all these people posting their "negative judgments" are based on these "negative" pictures & these slutty actions. If it walks like a slut, talk likes a slut & act likes a slut, I CAN CALL IT A SLUT, that is what it is. & I (& the majority of others) can call them as we see them. It is OUR right, based on THEIR actions. If that offends you, oh well. THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM, check out how much of the public thinks this is great, good, fun against those that dont. You & yours can do this all day long & I CAN CHOOSE TO VOICE MY OUTRAGE & DISGUST ABOUT IT. MY OPINION & EVEYONES ELSES THAT ARE DISGUSTED BY THIS ARE JUST AS VALID AS YOURS. We call them like we see them. If you dont like it, maybe they shouldnt act like this & maybe you shouldnt defend it - if you cant take the backlash from outrageous behaviour or defending it, MAYBE YOU SHOULDNT DO IT?????
Posted at 12:12PM on July 31st 2008 by does anyone really want their daughters doing this???
14. It is these females right to act like this & it is my right to base how I feel about them based on their actions. That is just how it is done, you base your opinion on someone based on their ACTIONS. & It is disgusting that every DECENT female has to rise above this type of slutty behavior because fools like these choose to act like this & GIVE WOMEN A BAD REP because of it. & again, yes my mother would be proud of me, for rising above, NOT condoning or accepting this as OK, good, clean (FAR from it) or fun. I have EVERY right to voice my opinion, as this is a PUBLIC FORUM, they took SEXUAL pictures rubbing all over this old dude, & if you dont think they got paid, you ARE an idiot & I can make that statement as well, you can call it a personal attack if you so choose, after all, if you dont want to be "attacked" or judged harshley or negatively, DONT PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE LIKE THAT.
Posted at 12:07PM on July 31st 2008 by look like sluts to be, based on the pics & their actions
15. Attention whores are still whores & yes, if they work there, which has been stated in numerous previous posts, they are being paid to rub on themselves & this desperate elderly man. Just scroll thru the post & see how many people "judge" them negatively based on these photos & THEIR OWN ACTIONS. They put themselves out there like this, what did they except, love??? Maybe from the old dude grinding on them, but not from normal, UPSTANDING, HONEST WORKING John Q, who has as much a right to he opinion as yours, or theirs. Right, keath??
Posted at 12:03PM on July 31st 2008 by if it walks, acts, looks like a slut - IT is a SLUT